Devotee: If so, where do these other things you spoke about —intellect (buddhi), memory (chittha), and ego
(ahamkara)— reside?
Swami: They too are in this only. Together, the organs of action and perception are called the ten organs. Of these,
four are distinguished and referred to as the four internal senses. Those four are mind (manas), intellect, memory,
and ego.
Devotee: Very nice. That is to say, all are in the same thing. Life is indeed funny. But Swami, what is the function
of these four?
Swami: The mind (manas) grasps the object; the intellect (buddhi) examines arguments for and against; the
memory or subconscious mind (chittha) understands the object by means of these; the ego (ahamkara) changes
the decision for or against and, by attachment, slackens the hold of wisdom (jnana). This is what they do.
Devotee: Excuse me, Swami, I am asking only to know; where do they exist in the body?
Swami: I am glad; don’t worry. The mind is in the cupola, the intellect in the tongue, the subconscious mind in the navel, and the ego in the heart.
Devotee: Excellent. So, the intellect and the ego are in the most important places! These are the chief causes of
all the world’s miseries. Then, if we examine with reference to Your words, it looks as if there will be no misery
when these two places are made pure!
Swami: You have indeed listened to me attentively. Yes, that is right. First, the use of words in a clean and pure
manner is proof of the intellect treading the right path. Second, suppression and conquering of the ego is proof
of the heart being pure. Therefore, be very careful regarding these two. Then, even your mind and subconscious
mind will come to have good activities. Only then will you be free from pain and misery. Pain and misery can
never happen to you then.
Devotee: So among all these, who is the “I”? Who is the experiencer of all this?
Swami: We have arrived at the right point. “You” are none among all these! All these exist only as long as the feeling “This body is mine” exists. They are all associated with some activities. The Atma, which observes all these
activities, that is “You”.
The joy and sorrow, the loss and misery, the good and bad of these activities are all related
only to the body, so they are not yours; they will not be yours. You are the Atma. Until this truth is realised, you
sleep the sleep of “I” and “Mine”. In that sleep, dreams appear of loss, misery, sorrow, and joy.
The dreams persist
only until you awake, and after you wake up, the fear you had while dreaming and the sorrow you experienced all
disappear and are no longer true. Similarly, when delusion is thrown off and you “awaken” in spiritual wisdom
(jnana), you will understand that all this is not “you”, that you are the Atma.
Devotee: Then, Swami, for whose sake do mind (manas), intellect (buddhi), subconscious mind (chittha), and
ego (ahamkara) do all this work?
Swami: For no one’s sake! They are engaged in their own work! The Atma observes everything, and its shad-
ow, the individual soul (jiva), which is deluded by the association of the body-consciousness, plays this drama,
through all these acts.
Dear All,
We shall try to know more on the topic Antah Karana dealt by Swami, in our next post.