Dear All,
The questions posed were as follows:-
We will perhaps end this theme tomorrow or day after tomorrow with the answer.
Love
We will now sum up with the recap of questions posed in a post in the current theme on WHAT IS THAT WHICH IS REALIZED at the end/ culmination of spiritual sadhana and also, we will reproduce the answer to the same given in a current theme post itself, though, if the author refers to all the posts from December 2016 onwards, the answer would be found in more than 50 posts.
Theme
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Questions
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Purpose of Human Birth
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How and what is the divine experience that we attain??
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How do we experience God without a name, form and without attributes??
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Karma
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How is the divine experience/ the state of existence with no karmas left as balance and we have transcended all actions/ all thoughts/ all karmas?
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Surrender
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What is our state of existence in that absolute self surrender??
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How do we experience God/Divinity within and without, with no thoughts, when we have merged into the ocean of Love that God's essence is!!!
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MBCA
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In the flow shown, the final culmination is shown as “Purpose of life, God realization, is fulfilled”.
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That is the final culmination of the all the efforts taken up in one's spiritual sadhana, with unshakable conviction (mumukshatva).
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However, when it is said, God realization, what is it exactly all about?? Which God is realized?? Where??? And what is the experience, if there is any experience at all, upon realizing the God??
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How any realized Master, upon God realization, can possibly explain THE GOD that has been realized by the Master???
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Creation
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“Upon retracing from the gross body and mind and senses as per sankhya flow and reaching up to the state of Purusha” or “Upon retracing from the drawings (our gross existence with body mind and intellect) and reaching up to the state of Purusha which is explained as unmanifest Iswara in the panchadasi learning”, What would be the actual experience of the PURUSHA or the UNMANIFEST ISWARA or the PURUSHOTTAMA explained in Bhagwad Gita???
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How and what is this God realization???
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What is that God who is realized as Purusha/ Purushottama/ Unmanifest Iswara??
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Can that God, who is otherwise inexplicable, be explained somehow???
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Three Bodies
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Is there anything, any existence which activates the three bodies, which sustains the three bodies but still, it is beyond the description off the three bodies????
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Three States of Consciousness
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In all the three states, on introspecting, we can observe one common thing.
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In the waking state, there is one factor which is fetching us all the experience through our senses and intellect but that one factor is above our senses and intellect. This can be said so because, that factor is only using the senses and intellect to fetch your experience. A king who uses the service of his ministers has to be obviously above the state of his ministers. Thus, the single factor which is using the ministers of its senses and intellect has to be above the senses / intellect!!
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In the dream state, again, that same single factor exists, which retrieves our impressions and bananas and then through our intellect, is fetching us the experience of what happened in the dream. Again, here also, the same explanation applies. The king, that single factor, using the vasanas / impressions and then the intellect, has to be above all of them!!!
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In the deep sleep, when neither senses are working, nor our impressions or vasanas are working, still, That single factor is definitely present, otherwise, without body, mind and intellect working, who was present while the King had deep sleep, who fetches the experience that “I had a deep sleep without any experience” when the king wakes up on the next day??
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Panchakoshas
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“If the 5 koshas are like the 5 lampshades or the 5 layers, then what is that which is the real Light which shines forth in and through all the 5 lampshades or all the 5 koshas?”
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Is Ananda Maya kosha the ultimate or there is any other subtler source which actually makes one feel that “I AM IN BLISS”, like an imaginary concluding scene explained in an earlier post when King Janaka wakes up and experiences that he had a very deep sleep the previous night.
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If his body, mind, intellect were not active while he was sleeping, then what was THAT which was witnessing his deep sleep which prompts him on the next day and makes him say that he had deep sleep??
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Introduction to Veda and vedanta (Posts on sadhana chatushthaya)
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If Mumuksatva is all about intense craving for God realization, WHAT is understood by the fired up mumukshu sadhaka as GOD??
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What is the God realization he is turning to??
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What is the experience that the sadhaka aspires to attain upon the fructification of his mumukshatva??
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We will perhaps end this theme tomorrow or day after tomorrow with the answer.
Love
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